Women's Spaces Radio Show of 7/14/2025 with special segment Men's Spaces with Ken Norton interviewing Dr. Kieran Fox on his new book" I Am Part of Infinity - the Spiritual Journey of Albert Einstein"

1. Commentary by our Host, Elaine B. Holtz: Hello everybody and welcome to Women’s Spaces. My name is Elaine B. Holtz, and I am your host. With me at the board is my friend, partner and engineer, Ken Norton. Good morning, Ken.

For Todays show we are doing the second show of our new segment, Men’s Spaces. Last Tuesday, Ken interviewed Dr. Kieran Fox, the author of the newly published book I Am a Part of Infinity – The Spiritual Journey of Albert Einstein, and we present that interview today.

What is so interesting about this interview and book is it was inspired by a lot of the information found in the book Einstein and the Poet - In Search of the Cosmic Man by Dr. William Hermanns. Dr. Hermanns was a mentor to Ken, and Ken assisted him with editing and preparing the book for publication and is mentioned several times in Dr. Fox’s newly published book.

In this Men’s Spaces interview, host Ken Norton speaks with Dr. Kieran Fox, neuroscientist and author of I Am a Part of Infinity: The Spiritual Journey of Albert Einstein. The conversation explores Einstein’s rarely examined spiritual worldview, which Fox argues was central to his thinking. Inspired early by Spinoza’s concept of mind-body unity and exposed to meditation and Eastern philosophy in high school, Fox’s spiritual journey eventually led him to Buddhist monasteries before entering neuroscience and medicine. While researching another book on the neuroscience of spirituality, Fox encountered Einstein’s quotes on unity and interconnectedness, prompting him to shift focus and explore Einstein’s spiritual influences in depth.
Fox accessed Einstein’s personal library, discovering heavily annotated texts like the Tao Te Ching and Greek philosophical works. These findings highlighted Einstein’s broad intellectual curiosity and deep engagement with ideas of harmony and oneness. Fox traces these themes through the influence of Spinoza, Pythagoras, Schopenhauer, and Eastern thinkers like Tagore, placing Einstein within a long lineage of scientists—from Newton to Kepler—who viewed mathematics as a language of universal truth. Einstein viewed science and spirituality not as opposites but as deeply intertwined
Reflecting on the impact of writing the book, Fox describes it as a culmination of 20 years of study, immersing himself in Einstein’s spiritual worldview, particularly ideas of unity and pantheism—which inspired Fox to move beyond intellectual exploration and into direct spiritual experience, often while walking in nature. These moments brought a profound sense of interconnectedness, akin to what Einstein called a “cosmic religious feeling.” He acknowledges criticism from Einstein scholars but stands by the book’s intellectual rigor and spiritual insights. Norton, who assisted William Hermanns Einstein and the Poet by William Hermanns

Einstein and the Poet by William Hermanns

in editing and publishing his book Einstein and the Poet, affirms Fox’s interpretation, noting its alignment with Hermans’ personal conversations with Einstein. The two explore Einstein’s strong ethical compass—his unwavering commitment to conscience over conformity. The interview concludes with a discussion of Einstein’s internal conflict over pacifism and war, and his lifelong burden over the atomic bomb’s creation. Both Norton and Fox emphasize the importance of preserving and exploring Einstein’s spiritual legacy.

About our Guest Dr. Kieran Fox: Kieran Fox, MD, PhD, studied medicine at Stanford University and holds a doctorate in Dr. Kieran Fox, MD, PhD

cognitive neuroscience from the University of British Columbia. He is a physician-scientist at the University of California San Francisco, where his research centers on the neural mechanisms and therapeutic potential of meditation practices and psychedelic medicines. He lives in San Francisco. I Am a Part of Infinity is his first book.

Our History Is Our Strength

Check out important dates to remember in Herstory at the National Women's History Alliance, wher, where the date descriptions were sourced unless otherwise indicated.

Special thank you to the National Women’s History Alliance for making women’s history alive. Shout out to Co-Founder and Retiring Executive Director, Molly McGregor who will be on the show when we celebrate Women’s History Month in March for making the fabulous list of Women in History where I get most of the info I present in this Herstory segment.

Herstory Events:

July 14, 1917 – 16 women from the National Women’s Party were arrested while picketing the White House demanding universal women’s suffrage; they were charged with obstructing traffic.

July 19-20, 1848 – The Seneca Falls Convention, the country’s first women’s rights convention, is held in Seneca Falls, New York Women’s Rights Movement .

Herstory Birthdays:

July 18, 1892 (1980) – Doris Fleischman Bernays, first married woman to gain a U.S. passport in her maiden name (1925), writer and editor for the “New York Tribune,” and publicist.

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Announcements

Wednesday, July 21, 2025, 11 AM PT, the show features to be announced. Radio KBBF 89.1 FM, North SF Bay or live streaming at https://kbbf.org/live

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Wednesday, July 23, 2025, 10 AM PT, the show is a repeat of our show of 7/14/25 that features to be announced. Radio KPCA 103.3 FM, Petaluma, CA. https://petalumacommunityaccess.org/kpca

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Saturday, August 30, 2025, 11:00 AM – 5:00 PM, 4th Annual African Soul Festival, Rohnert Park City Center Plaza, 475 City Center Dr, Rohnert Park, CA

4th Annual African Soul Festival 8/10/2025

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Ongoing:

Every Wednesday the Peace and Justice Center of Sonoma County (PJCSC) issues new weekly list of events and links to community non-profit organizations. It includes ongoing peace and human rights rallies and protests, and those sponsored by the Community United to Resist Fascism (CURF) of which PJCSC is a member : Website www.pjcsoco.org

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Every Sunday, Palestine Support Sunday, 2- 4 pm, Old Courthouse Square, Santa Rosa, CA

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Every Thursday, Rally for Veterans Health Benefits, Protesting Potential Cuts to VA Funding, VA Center, 2285 Challenger Way, Santa Rosa, CA

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For events and tips for defending Democracy: https://indivisiblesoco.org/

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The North Bay Organizing Project - Rapid Response Project

https://www.northbayop.org/nbrrn

Add this number to your contacts list on your smartphone: (707)800-4544 in case of an ICE encounter.

NBOP Rapid Response

Music Selections

The Opening and Closing Theme song The Woman in Your Life is You is done with permission of the Composer and Singer Alix Dobkin ((August 16, 1940 – May 19, 2021) Alix Dobkin death was just announced - Thank you for all you did for Lesbians to be recognized and Women to be honored. May you rest in peace. See our Interview with Alix Dobkin on 12/1/2014 and our Memorial to Alix Dobkin on 5/24/2021.

Light a Candle, sung by Neil Young, from the album Fork in the Road (2000 Reprise Records for the USA and WEA International for the world outside the USA).

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Link: Spinitron.com Playlist for Women's Spaces Show

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